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The Pope has never held sway over the American West, nor has he shaped its spirit. In America, the Pope holds no real influence. This nation was built on Protestant values — yet today, we see a rise in Orthodoxy while Roman Catholicism continues to fade. …
Catholicism is fading? The Pope has no sway in America? What are you smoking? Orthodoxy has sway in Alaska and various ethnic enclaves of Greeks and Russians and has very little impact in American culture. Catholicism ESPECIALLY traditional Catholicism is growing. It is culturally impactfull, frequently appearing (both with respectful and distasteful depictions) in movies, TV, and internet meme culture. Orthodoxy? Not as much. I say this with Orthodox friends that you are dead wrong and look jealous and silly that your Patriarchs aren't given a sliver of the same interest.

But this proves what I have always said. Many Americans that become EO are such because they realize Protestantism is dead and shallow, they want sacraments and beauty but cannot bring themselves to shed their protestant brainwashing about the Pope and want to do their own thing.

I say this with philia and charity, you as well are excused from this conversation and as a neophyte to Orthodoxy should refrain from speaking on these matters until you've matured in your faith.



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Catholicism is fading? The Pope has no sway in America? What are you smoking? Orthodoxy has sway in Alaska and various ethnic enclaves of Greeks and Russians and has very little impact in American culture. Catholicism ESPECIALLY traditional Catholicism is growing. It is culturally impactfull, frequently appearing (both with respectful and distasteful depictions) in movies, TV, and internet meme culture. Orthodoxy? Not as much. I say this with Orthodox friends that you are dead wrong and look jealous and silly that your Patriarchs aren't given a sliver of the same interest.

But this proves what I have always said. Many Americans that become EO are such because they realize Protestantism is dead and shallow, they want sacraments and beauty but cannot bring themselves to shed their protestant brainwashing about the Pope and want to do their own thing.

I say this with philia and charity, you as well are excused from this conversation and as a neophyte to Orthodoxy should refrain from speaking on these matters until you've matured in your faith.

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